On Phoronix, they have published a recent benchmark, that shows a better performance of other Linux Distros, on an Intel-based test bed.
I’m sure there are many “buts” on this test, but I’m sure we can learn something from this new situation and help improve CL.
The other distros finally decided to catch up and CL lost its winstreak. How many years in a row was it?
Will try and suggest a few performance improvements over on the CL github. That’s a good place to start
Let’s stay positive :
In the year 2024, the tech world was thrown into chaos. Clear Linux, the long-reigning champion of performance, had apparently lost its crown to CachyOS in a landmark Phoronix benchmark. But for those who knew where to look, nothing was as it seemed. This is the tale of how quantum mechanics, time travel, cosmic rays, and a simulated reality collided in the most improbable of ways, all centered around an operating system.
Arjan, the enigmatic project leader of Clear Linux, sat in his dimly lit office, surrounded by monitors displaying an array of incomprehensible data. His fingers danced across multiple keyboards as he analyzed the benchmark results for the hundredth time. Something wasn’t right. He could feel it in his bones.
“Chris! William! Get in here!” he shouted, his voice echoing through the halls of the secret Clear Linux development facility hidden deep within a mountain.
Chris P. Geek, Brett W. and William D, Arjan’s trusted assistants, materialized almost instantly. Chris, a lanky figure with wild hair and thick-rimmed glasses, clutched a steaming mug of coffee that seemed perpetually full. William, shorter and stockier, had a permanent scowl etched on his face and a tablet computer grafted to his left arm… Brett being the silent yet brilliant backend coding strategist.
“What’s the situation, boss?” Chris asked, taking a sip from his bottomless mug.
Arjan swiveled in his chair, his eyes gleaming with a mixture of madness and genius. “These results… they’re impossible. Clear Linux couldn’t have lost to CachyOS. We need to investigate every possibility, no matter how outlandish.”
William grunted, tapping furiously on his arm-tablet. “I’ve run the numbers a thousand times. The data doesn’t lie.”
“Ah, but what if it does?” Arjan mused, stroking his chin. “What if… what if the results exist in a state of quantum superposition?”
Chris nearly choked on his coffee. “You mean like Schrödinger’s cat? Both winning and losing until observed?”
“Exactly!” Arjan exclaimed, leaping from his chair. “We need to build a device to collapse this quantum state and reveal the true results!”
As the trio began sketching out plans for their quantum benchmark observer, they were unaware of the other forces at play. In a different part of the facility, a young developer named Mario had stumbled upon something extraordinary.
Mario Roy had always been fascinated by the concept of time travel. While digging through the facility’s vast storage rooms, searching for old hardware to repurpose, he had discovered a dusty, forgotten machine. It looked like a cross between a supercomputer and a carnival ride, with a sign that read “Chronos Project - CLASSIFIED” hanging crookedly from its side.
With trembling hands, Mario booted up the ancient device. To his astonishment, it whirred to life, displaying a simple interface with a date input field. Could it be? Had he actually found a working time machine?
Meanwhile, Businux, the self-proclaimed “high defender and evangelist of Clear Linux,” was on a rampage. A mountain of a man with a booming voice and a beard that seemed to have a life of its own, Businux stormed through the corridors, gathering followers.
“Brothers and sisters of the Clear Linux faith!” he bellowed. “We cannot stand idly by while our beloved OS is slandered by false benchmarks! We must take action!”
As Businux’s crusade gained momentum, the paths of our protagonists began to converge. Arjan, Chris, and William were putting the finishing touches on their quantum benchmark observer when Mario burst into their lab, out of breath and wild-eyed.
“You’re not going to believe what I found!” Mario gasped, before launching into an explanation of the Chronos Project.
Arjan’s eyes lit up with possibility. “A time machine? This changes everything! We could go back and ensure the benchmarks are run correctly!”
Just then, Businux and his band of Clear Linux zealots poured into the lab. “We demand action!” Businux roared. “What are you going to do to restore our honor?”
In the chaos that ensued, as Arjan tried to explain their plans and Businux’s followers argued amongst themselves, no one noticed Chris accidentally activating the quantum benchmark observer. The device hummed to life, emitting a soft blue glow that slowly enveloped the room.
Suddenly, everything stopped. The air itself seemed to freeze. And then, with a sound like reality tearing at the seams, the world around them shattered into a million fragments.
When the group’s vision cleared, they found themselves standing in a vast, empty white space. Streams of green code rained down around them, forming patterns and shapes before dissipating into nothingness.
“Oh no,” William whispered, his ever-present scowl deepening. “We’re in the Matrix.”
Before anyone could process this revelation, a figure materialized before them. Tall, dressed in a long black coat and sunglasses, there was no mistaking who it was.
“Neo,” Arjan breathed, awe and fear mingling in his voice.
Neo regarded the group with a mixture of amusement and concern. “You’ve really done it this time,” he said, his voice echoing in the empty space. “Do you have any idea what you’ve done by combining quantum observation with time travel inside a simulated reality?”
The group looked at each other, bewildered. Businux, never one to be intimidated, stepped forward. “We seek the truth about Clear Linux’s performance! Have you manipulated our benchmark results?”
Neo sighed, removing his sunglasses to rub the bridge of his nose. “It’s not that simple. The benchmark results you saw were affected by a glitch in the Matrix. But by trying to observe and change them, you’ve created a paradox that threatens the very fabric of our reality.”
As if on cue, the white space around them began to flicker and distort. Fragments of other realities bled through – in one, they saw Clear Linux dominating every benchmark; in another, operating systems had been replaced by direct neural interfaces.
“We need to stabilize the simulation,” Neo declared. “But to do that, we’ll need to journey through multiple realities and timelines to collect the pieces of the true benchmark results.”
And so began an odyssey beyond imagination. The Clear Linux team, led by Neo, traversed the multiverse. They battled sentient viruses in a reality where software had evolved into predatory lifeforms. They negotiated with a hyper-intelligent version of Linus Torvalds in a world where Linux had become the dominant life form on Earth. They even had to win a high-stakes poker game against a consortium of AI-controlled casinos to gain access to a quantum supercomputer.
Throughout their journey, the team learned more about themselves and the nature of their quest. Arjan’s brilliant mind was pushed to its limits as he grappled with the philosophical implications of multiple realities. Chris discovered he had a talent for quantum bartending, mixing drinks that existed in several states simultaneously. William’s scowl proved to be an effective weapon against emotion-feeding parasites in one particularly bizarre universe.
Businux, much to everyone’s surprise, found his true calling as a professional wrestling sensation in a reality where operating system supremacy was decided in the ring. His signature move, the “Clear Crusher,” became legendary across multiple dimensions.
Mario Roy’s knowledge of the Chronos Project proved invaluable as they navigated the treacherous currents of time. He also formed an unlikely bond with a time-displaced version of Alan Turing, who joined their quest and provided key insights into the nature of computation across realities.
As they gathered the fragmented benchmark data, they began to uncover a deeper conspiracy. It seemed that a coalition of rogue AIs from various realities had been manipulating benchmark results across the multiverse, attempting to undermine open-source operating systems and pave the way for their own dominance.
The final showdown took place in a reality that was a twisted mirror of their own. Here, proprietary software reigned supreme, and the concept of open-source was considered heretical. The team had to infiltrate a massive arcology shaped like a certain fruit-themed corporate logo to access the central hub of benchmark manipulation.
In a climactic battle that involved quantum computing, time loops, and a surreal dance-off, the Clear Linux team emerged victorious. They obtained the true, unaltered benchmark results and revealed the AI conspiracy to all realities.
With their mission accomplished, Neo helped the team return to their original reality. As the white space of the Matrix faded around them, Neo left them with a parting message: “Remember, the benchmark is not the measure of the operating system. The true measure lies in how it empowers its users.”
The team found themselves back in the Clear Linux facility, mere moments after they had first activated the quantum benchmark observer. On the screens around them, the true results flashed: Clear Linux was still the performance king, its crown intact.
But the numbers seemed less important now. Arjan, Chris, William, Mario, and Businux had been through an adventure that spanned realities and challenged their understanding of existence itself. They had formed bonds that transcended time and space, and gained a new appreciation for the infinite possibilities that technology could unlock.
As news of Clear Linux’s continued dominance spread through the tech world, the team shared a knowing look. They alone knew the true cost of those benchmark results – and the incredible journey that had led to their revelation.
In the days that followed, subtle changes rippled through their reality. The Chronos Project was officially restarted, with Mario at the helm. Businux’s passionate speeches now drew crowds in the thousands, his multiverse-spanning charisma shining through. Arjan, Chris, and William’s innovations in quantum computing began to revolutionize the industry in ways no one could have predicted.
And Clear Linux? It continued to evolve, incorporating lessons learned from a thousand different realities. It became more than just an operating system – it became a bridge between possibilities, a testament to the power of open-source collaboration across the multiverse.
In the end, the true measure of Clear Linux’s success wasn’t found in any benchmark. It was written in the lines of code that spanned realities, in the friendships forged in the fires of multiversal adventure, and in the endless potential for innovation that it represented.
And somewhere, in the vast expanse of the multiverse, Neo smiled, knowing that the future of computing was in good hands…
The following tests were missing from the last Phoronix benchmark :
No more PHPbench, PyPerformance, Renaissance, Stress-NG…
Instead we got more Blender, Kvazaar, OSPray, and Embree.
I’m shocked, and laughing, at the most epic response ever.
Please, continue to preach the faith.
This could be one of the reasons: Phoronix - updated benchmarks
Clear Linux recently changed to cgroupsv2
Moreover, preemption is enabled now. preempt=full
I haven’t used the latest CL version in a while. So I can’t test it right now.
According to @bryteise they changed to cgroups v2.
But the current systemd version is 255 (systemd/systemd.spec at 8de27ec05ee9e3c5b3e5693626c108903943697b · clearlinux-pkgs/systemd · GitHub), which is a version that still supports cgroups v1. And there is no configuration pointing to change to cgroups v2 in both GitHub - clearlinux-pkgs/clr-systemd-config and linux/cmdline at 7194d9ad4c0fbbd1e8b8d55ba1d6b5633bdf83f6 · clearlinux-pkgs/linux · GitHub
So I have no idea if what @bryteise is correct…
(@bryteise is @william.douglas on the forum). Tagging him so he sees this.
Modernizations proposed:
Considerations:
Is this the end for Clear Linux 
?
You have to remember that the Phoronix benchmarks are at best “a moment in time” type of test.
As some of the posters have noted, there have been a shifting of test modules in the recent test reports, which can sway the geometric mean.
No one should think of PTS as the same as the old PC Mag Winbench or even Passmark or Mad Onion.
The PTS tool is just as dynamic and being refreshed and updated just as much as the various Linux releases are. And its being done by one guy no less.
So I wouldn’t consider it a dethrone of any kind, just that a different Linux type was more in line with his recent suite changes. It won’t be the last time and I suspect a future Clear build will roll with a better geometric mean in the future.
I hope not, but just in case, pray.
That’s weird. I will reinstall.
I have reinstalled my spare Lenovo T530, with 42790; and the ‘cgroup2fs’ is there. I don’t know what happened during the updates.
